The best flap discs | MIG Welding Forum

caveman

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• Aug 28,

• #1

Hi guys this has probably been asked before,
What are the very best flap discs are as mine wear out really quick and would like some good ones

ytre

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• Aug 28,

• #2

Click on weldequip above, I use theres all the time and find them hardwearing and last a lot longer than others

F.J.

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• Aug 28,

• #3

I use Werth discs as my biggest customer has an account with them so I get them a but cheaper but they last ages. Any discs that aren't branded by a reputable company are generally crap.

jordan1

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• Aug 28,

• #4

I don't use a lot but I find that the Zirconium flap discs from Smith & Arrow seem to last and cut well.

marc.w

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• Aug 28,

• #6

Parker tools have an offer on Garryson abrasives at the moment... Flap discs from £1.19 ea

pedrobedro

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• Aug 28,

• #8

Buy a flexible backing pad and some fibre discs, last ages and work out cheaper.

Bede

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• Aug 28,

• #9

Indeed. I use 3M zirconia disks from Buck & Hickman.

ben8vgte

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• Aug 28,

• #10

Another vote for fibre disc's, but you wont go wrong with Klingspor flap disc's.

Robotstar5

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• Aug 30,

• #11

I generally use Wurth discs and find them good.

outofthefire

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• Aug 30,

• #12

I am another fan of soft pads and we use klingspor flapdisks at work, but the other day the works manager asked me to try some new flapdisks the rep was pushing. They're ceramic they aren't cheap but they last at least four times longer than the ordinary flapdisks and cut virtually the same from start to finish, I don't use anything else now. Search ceramic flap disks they're on the bay and weldequip sell them.

Jim Davey

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• Aug 31,

• #13

^^^ There's at least two reasons why ceramic is so much better, one the ceramic grit doesn't transmit heat to the bonding agent so they stay put rather than melting the glue that holds the abrasive in place like conventional flap discs do. And they also shatter and chip of tiny chunks of ceramic leaving a sharp broken cutting edge behind, so in effect the cutting surface is constantly renewed right up until the point it's gone hence the excellent stock removal from start to finish. We find disc life can be increased further still with no loss of cutting speed by reducing the RPM of the grinder by 20-30% (This only works if you have a variable speed grinder of course)

Often the ceramic disc will be priced at double the cost of a good quality ali ox, or zirc disc but with 4-5 times the life, faster stock removal and less down time swapping out worn discs then they are a financial winner, I don't know why more people don't use them.

outofthefire

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• Sep 1,

• #14

I don't know why more people don't use them.

I bet they're put off the price, I know I would have been if I hadn't had the freebies to try first.

Hitch

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• Sep 1,

• #15

Ne normally have a 3M ones.
Klingspor seem to wear out much quicker than the 3m ones.
Even put it to the test recently, the 3m ones lasted about 2.5 times longer than the klingspor.

Both zirconium ones. If you compare the number of flaps, the 3m ones seem to have more, which means its loaded with more abrasive.

Hitch

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• Sep 1,

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I am another fan of soft pads and we use klingspor flapdisks at work, but the other day the works manager asked me to try some new flapdisks the rep was pushing. They're ceramic they aren't cheap but they last at least four times longer than the ordinary flapdisks and cut virtually the same from start to finish, I don't use anything else now. Search ceramic flap disks they're on the bay and weldequip sell them.

I tried one of these ones a couple of weeks ago, material removal stayed about the same for most of its life, rather than polishing it, but no way did mine last 4x as long! Infact, i seem to recall it being outlived by a standard 3m zirconium.

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Flap discs are incredibly versatile abrasives that play a crucial role in metal fabrication, whether you're grinding, blending, or finishing. They’re lightweight, help minimize vibration, and deliver a cooler, smoother cut compared to traditional grinding wheels.

Key Factors in Choosing a Flap Disc:

Shape:

• Type 29 (Conical): Perfect for aggressive stock removal and edge work.
• Type 27 (Flat): Best suited for surface finishing and blending.

Backing Material:

• Fiberglass: Strong and durable, plus it absorbs vibration well.
• Plastic: A budget-friendly option that’s flexible and extends the lifespan.
• Metal: The toughest choice, though pricier, ideal for concrete and stone work.

Abrasive Grit Material:

• Ceramic Alumina: Highly durable, making it great for stainless steel.
• Zirconia Alumina: A cost-effective option for mild and carbon steel.
• Aluminum Oxide: An economical choice for general-purpose tasks.

Grit Size:

• Lower grits (40-60) are for heavy material removal.
• Higher grits (80-120+) are perfect for achieving a smooth finish.

Flap Density:

• Standard Density: Great for quick material removal.
• High Density: Best for finishing touches and working on curved surfaces.

Application-Specific Flap Discs:

• Aluminum: Use T29 for stock removal and T27 for a smooth finish.
• Wood: Opt for aluminum oxide grits and progress from coarse to fine.
• Paint Removal: Non-woven or aluminum oxide discs are the way to go.
• Concrete: Silicone carbide or diamond discs are ideal for aggressive stock removal.

Selecting the right flap disc can significantly enhance efficiency, cut costs, and ensure top-notch performance across various materials and applications.

The primary category of abrasives used in metal manufacturing is flap discs. For a cheaper overall cost, they provide quick stock removal and supply grinding, mixing, and finishing in one package. With less gouging and burning, flap discs offer cooler cutting. Flap discs are favored for several reasons, including their small weight, ease of control, less downtime for product changes, reduced vibration and fatigue, and decreased noise.

However, it's crucial to comprehend all the factors and how they connect to your metal fabrication application when choosing the appropriate flap discs for the job. Because it will reduce the amount of time and money required for the process, choosing the appropriate materials for your metal grinding or finishing applications is essential.

Let's first gain a basic understanding of flap discs. Let's first gain a basic understanding of flap discs.

Flap Discs: What Are They?

Flap discs get their name from the numerous overlapping abrasive particles, or "flaps," that make them up. Flap discs are intended for use with right-angle grinders for a variety of tasks, including removing heavy stock and blending and smoothing surfaces.

When they were first developed at the end of the s, abrasive flap discs for high-speed angle grinders were very basic, but today they are available in a large variety. You should give a flap disc serious consideration if you need a better finish and easier operation than a grinding wheel can offer.

Benefits Of Flap Discs

Flap discs are useful for grinding, blending, and finishing. Additionally, they are portable, lightweight, and need little maintenance over time. Due to less vibration and noise, many operators choose flap discs over grinding wheels when executing a task. However, flap discs generate less scratching and colder cutting.

For instance, grinding wheels should be disposed of even if there is small damage or if the abrasive gets worn off. Flap discs, on the other hand, are highly durable as they can be used even after the flaps dissolve.

Compared to flap discs, grinding wheels are less expensive per unit. However, if you take into account the adaptability, robustness, and simplicity that flap discs offer, they end up being more affordable over time. These benefits have caused flap discs to become much more popular in recent years.

Choosing The Right Flap Disc

In the modern market, there are several different flap discs to choose from. Let's start by understanding the various flap disc components so you can pick the right disc for the task at hand:

1. Shape Of The Flap Disc

Flap discs are used with right-angle grinders, and they have a center point that makes it possible to Operate on the flaps. Angles between 5 and 35 degrees are frequently used to align the flaps. Different performance features are offered by choosing the appropriate flap disc shape, conical shape (Type 29), or flat shape (Type 27).

• TYPE 29 OR CONICAL FLAP DISCS – The most straightforward option for forceful stock removal is conical flap discs. These discs are mostly suitable for contoured and edge work. Choose a type 29 disc if you require speed and quick stock removal.

• Type 27 OR FLAT FLAP DISC: Flat flap discs are ideally suited for finishing projects. Discs with flat flaps are only used on flat surfaces. They make blending and smooth finishing the easiest option.

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2. Flap Disc Material

Another crucial factor to take into account when selecting flap discs for your application is the backing plate material. The three most common materials for backing plates are metal, plastic, and fiberglass.

• FIBREGLASS – Fibreglass is the most often used material because it is sturdy, long-lasting, light, and safe, With adhesives, fiberglass forges a solid bond and doesn't pollute the work surface. This kind of plate also degrades with time and has excellent vibration absorption. Keep in mind that layers of fiberglass are crushed and mesh-bonded together to create a fiberglass backing. When reviewing the precise specifications of a flap disc, it's crucial to keep in mind that the backing will be stronger and more durable if there are more layers and a higher mesh density.

• PLASTIC – Plastic is another widely used backing material, with nylon being the most popular type. These backings can be cut, extending the time that flaps can be used, especially during blending and finishing. Due to its cost-effectiveness and conformability, plastic is a choice that people are finding more and more appealing today.

• METAL - The best option is metal backing plates because they are strong and reliable when you need extra support and strength Metals like aluminum are frequently utilized. Due to their high cost, metal plates should only be utilized when necessary. For stronger support and greater performance, use flap discs with metals when dealing with concrete or stone applications. Metals are not consumed during usage, but after a flap disc has reached the end of its useful life, metal plates can simply be recycled.

3. Abrasive Flap Density

What does it mean? Consider the overall amount of abrasive area that the flaps on a flap disc give when calculating density. This area is affected by the number of flaps on a disc, their angle relative to the disc center, and the distance between them.  Keep in mind that every factor has the potential to affect the quantity of disc space available for your project.

• STANDARD DENSITY – The best flaps for heavy-duty applications and quick stock removal are those with standard densities.

• HIGH DENSITY – When working on curved or irregular tasks, as well as during finishing, high-density flaps perform well. Don't take the flap disc density description at face value. To distinguish between two discs, each of which may mention "standard density flaps" or "high-density flaps," look at the quantity, angle, and spacing of the flaps.

4. Abrasive Grit Material

Flap discs can be used for many different jobs, including removing paint or rust, polishing or smoothing stone, dealing with wood or metal, and more. To maximize flap disc performance, it is essential to choose the appropriate abrasive grit material for your specific application requirements. Let's examine the sorts of abrasive grit that are most frequently used:

• CERAMIC ALUMINA – This material works well in alloy or stainless steel applications. When using Ceramic Alumina, the grit 1 material breaks down on a micro level. There are, therefore, constantly many cutting surfaces available. As a result, cutting can be completed faster while keeping using all of the grain. Because cutting uses up the entire grain, these discs are more durable.

• ZIRCONIA ALUMINA –Because of the way the zirconia and aluminum oxide grains are arranged, it can be used with both mild and carbon steel. Zirconia alumina is less costly than ceramic alumina and offers significant price savings.

• ALUMINUM OXIDE –This was the first type of grit used when flap discs were first introduced in the s. It is also the least expensive. These days, it is recommended for smaller companies that produce low-value products.

5. Grit Size

You've probably heard about grit sizes before if you've been using grinding wheels. Your ultimate goal and what you're trying to achieve will determine the last component you need to choose.  Use abrasives with a lower grit number to remove stock or grind common materials. On the other hand, if you want to produce a flawless finish, use higher grit sizes.

6. Backing Material

The backing material refers to the material in which the abrasive flaps are attached. The popularly used backing materials are fiberglass and plastic. Fiberglass backing paper is mostly suitable for heavy-duty applications as they are strong in nature. Plastic backing material, on the other hand, is highly flexible and perfectly suitable for blending and finishing jobs. 

7. Consider The Price

Price is another crucial factor when choosing a flap disc for your project. Some options are budget-friendly, and the ones are highly expensive. Still, it's important to balance price with durability, performance, and safety, as cheaper discs might be attractive initially. Still, they tend to break or damage quickly, posing safety risks, requiring replacement, and even costing more than the initial price. On the other hand, premium discs are of high quality and have superior backings, which results in increased lifespan, outstanding performance, and enhanced security. 

The Uses Of A Flap Disc

Flap discs were initially used on metals, particularly for welding. Here is the list of different flap discs that are used on different surfaces:

FLAP DISCS FOR ALUMINUM

Compared to other metals, aluminum melts more easily and at a lower temperature. Because of this, as the flap disc is being ground, the aluminum material covers it, concealing the grit and exposing just tiny bits of aluminum. Use a T29 conical disc at a 15-degree angle to provide the most surface contact for removing stock. Use a T27 flat disc that is parallel to your work area if you need to surface-clean or produce a smooth finish. For optimal results, reduce loading and improve grinding with mild, constant pressure.

FLAP DISCS FOR WOOD

Flap discs are great tools for woodworking. The flap discs designed for wood are similar to those designed for metal. Aluminum oxide grits are suitable for use in wood applications. Use your angle grinder's flap discs on wood in the same way you would a grinding wheel. Start with a coarse grit and progress to a lighter grit (100+) for the final finish to prevent deep scratches. To create a surface suitable for furniture, sand wood using grit grades of 120, 150, 180, and 220.

FLAP DISCS FOR PAINT REMOVAL

Do you have something made of rusty metal that you are sure you can make last longer? Does your car need to have its old, flaking paint removed in order to look brand new? Flap discs are the best instruments for removing paint and rust, especially non-woven discs. Non-woven or aluminum oxide-containing flap discs can be used to remove paint or corrosion. These discs, like all flap discs, may grind and finish in one step while providing a regulated and smooth grind.

FLAP DISCS FOR CONCRETE

Silicone carbide or diamond flap discs are best suited for aggressive stock removal on concrete. These two carbides are the world’s hardest substances. While using these two silicone and diamond carbide discs on concrete surfaces, you don't need to put a lot of pressure. These rigid-backed flap discs can be used on a variety of surfaces, including engineered stone, granite, marble, and ceramics.

CONCLUSION

In contrast to the past, when they were solely employed on metals, flap discs are now available for use on a variety of surfaces. Modern flap discs come in a wide variety and can be used to remove concrete, paint, and more. Achieving the required level of efficacy and efficiency is the most important consideration when selecting the appropriate disc for each of these uses.

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